Evolution of the prototype: summary

Genesis and assembling from the first ideas until the creation of the prototype

The map from 2008 to 2011: graphic

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:42

I do a summary of the evolution of graphic design starting from the old map of 1999 cleaned up:
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The territories this time had to be a little bigger because I used the thumbnail 1:72, so I had to reduce the area of play:
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While the map of 2008 was still only 1 piece in 2010 I decided to divide it into 2 parts and create 2 boxes of the game, the box BASE (up to 5 players) and the expansion box (up to 10 players) ... so the red and the green zone would be the expansions:
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In this way I could decide the position of the decks on the map:
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In the background I used 4 colors to distinguish the 4 areas of the zones of land:
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I have prepared a scheme of texture to color the Kingdoms:
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First I colored the major Kingdoms with the colors of the armies...
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Then I colored the minor Kingdoms:
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To decide the location of hills, mountains, forests and deserts, I searched the internet maps such as these:
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I have prepared a scheme to decide which territories were hilly, mountainous, forest or desert:
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These are the symbols that I have chosen to describe the various types of territories, the plain is no symbol:
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Then I prepared another scheme where I decided on the name of the territories and the position of the cities:
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For the cities I used pictures of some PC games like Age of Empires or Cossaks, first I made a collection...
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... then I chose the 36 symbols:
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Detail:
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The names of the cities have the same color of the areas of land:
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Same thing for the names of the Kingdoms...
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... and anchors to indicate the harbors:
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Here is a detail after you have added all the graphic objects on the map:
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I remade the wind rose...
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... and areas where to place the decks:
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At the end of 2011 i fixed some areas, 2 examples:

old:
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new:
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old:
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new:
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Finally, here is the evolution of the map:

2008
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2009:
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2010:
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2011:
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More info in italian:
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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=141#p1681
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=729#p1315
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The map from 2008 to 2011: the angel

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:45

I wanted an angel on the map to replace the borrowed PC game Europa Universalis:
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Until 2009 I used that, but it was time to change it ... a friend had made ​​a drawing, but unfortunately there was absolutely fine with the graphics on the map:
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Then I met Rhodry, an artist (https://www.facebook.com/pages/La-Figli ... 69?fref=ts) who agreed to draw me an angel.
First she made me choose the type of face...
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... and body posture
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Then he created the sketches:
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And finally drew it exactly as I had imagined, very good!
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Color it was more difficult, Rhodry not using the computer for work and so did her friend ... here some trials of color:
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The only change I did was change the eyes:
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Finished!
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The map from 2008 to 2011: study the assembly

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:47

After many versions that I am not here to enumerate, I had achieved a good map division:
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By removing one by one the various expansions, at the end you get to the map of the game for 3-5 players inside the box BASE:
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In the latest version of the map I tweaked the divisions so you can choose to play with the green expansion rather than yellow expansion:
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Exaggerating, I could reduce the area of ​​the box BASE for 3-4 players and increase the number of expansions:
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The map from 2008 to 2011: the assembly

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:50

2008

1 - Assemblage of the cardboard base for the map

MATERIAL:
10 sheets of cardboard (adequate size and thickness, in my case 700x500mm, 1.5 mm thick)
1 roll of transparent tape
1 roll of reinforced tape
1 roll of paper tape
Pencil
Rubber
Ruler or tape measure
Scissors
Cutter
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PREPARATION
The main problem is fitting a 1420x1080mm map in a 305mm wide box, so it has to be folded in a certain way.
The previous maps were folded in 2 ways: in 4 (classic method used in most cases) or in 8 (first longways and then like an accordion). This time the 1420mm of length didn’t allow me either solution…so I decided to fold it 10 times, first like an accordion, then longways, as shown in the photo.
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At this point you trace on the cardboard the size of these 10 folds, using a pencil and a ruler.
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Then you cut with the cutter (not the scissors because the cardboard is too thick and it is difficult, whereas with the cutter the first cut is slow and precise along the pencil line and then you can cut more energetically without being afraid of making a mistake, and the result is a lot more precise).
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You position the 10 pieces side by side to create a surface as big as the map, and start thinking how you are going to fold them (trust me, it is better to think beforehand and more than once!)...
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… then you start “blocking” the pieces of cardboard with little cuts of paper tape (don’t put it too firmly, you have to take it off) and then the resistant sticky tape (careful with the directions of the fold, one each way!)
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So, the folds on one side have the resistant sticky tape, while on the other side there is the transparent “soft” tape, which allows the map to be opened and closed hundreds of times without ruining it.
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Use the scissors handle to stick the tape firmly onto the cardboard (if you don’t, in a year’s time it will fall apart!).
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Done!
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2 - Putting the map on the foldable cardboard base

I asked a graphic designer to print the map, 300 dpi quality, opaque on top, adhesive underneath.
First of all I covered the edges of the cardboard base with reinforced tape, which also blocked the folds on the base.
Then I put the map on top, I checked it was perfectly in place and then fixed it to the table with paper tape.
Plus the map is big, more you must wait (maybe even a whole day) for the creases and folds to go away.
Now take the paper tape off on one side of the map (1/3 of the total length), and leave the rest attached to the table.
Open the lower film and cut it as far as you can (1/3 approximately) so you free the adhesive part under the map.
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Now is an important stage: put the “free” portion of the map on the cardboard base…2 people is better, one keeps the corner of the map up, the second slowly and delicately puts it down… do not use your hands or the scissor handle, it’s better if you have a sponge or a towel (preferably damp). Repeat the operation with the other side of the map.
I apologize for this single photo, but I was alone and had to manage (standing on the table, using hands and feet and balancing myself…)
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Now be careful!!! With the cutter you have to cut along the cardboard edges without ruining the map or the reinforced tape on the opposite side…careful…careful!!! Make sure you know where you’re cutting, keep the cardboard straight and…go!
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Done!
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2012

1 - Assemblage of the cardboard base for the map

I took 4 sheets of cardboard sp. 2 mm. and I leaning over the laminate panels. The blocks of wood I will need to align cardboard and laminate. In the picture below I have already cut the cardboard in the bottom right corner to show you the 2 steps:
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Here the step of cutting the cardboard is completed:
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I was undecided whether to merge the board and laminated with glue or double sided adhesive tape ... I have not trusted because the glue would not come off in the long run ... this support is supposed to be the final version and deluxe, if I were to redo the map, it will attack again above here:
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2 - Putting the map on the foldable cardboard base

Panel below the map and still rolled over, as you can see there is only one junction on the upper side of the panel, the others are all below... This detail not to make the map much more beautiful to look at once the work... also clears blemishes and wrinkles that are created when the map folds in on itself.
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Map unrolled on the panel:
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Fixing map on the shelf ... this time I added an extra edge in the press that will be the flap on the rear panel ... this device I reset the protection times of the edges with other material, the structure is more robust and aesthetically is fine ... against the alignment of the map on the panel below is a little more difficult, but nothing complicated.
I leave it all so 1 hour to reduce the tensions of the press:
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Then half free map from the paper tape that keeps her locked extension and the protective film on the back:
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Damp cloth to roll out the map, it helps to eliminate air bubbles ... notice that I put on the right side of the adhesive sheets of gray duct tape that is used for bending ... I put these sheets to halve the gap the thickness of duct tape, instead of having 1 step I have 2 more thin that they are less noticeable once stretched the map:
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Done attacking the map on the panel:
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Accommodation edges with even the whole entire map:
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Cutting with the cutter of the various sections of the map ... this time I had to put a shim under the fold to highlight the cutting line because the panel under laminate is too precise and tough and would not allow the passage of the blade:
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Map BASE folded to the left and map EXPANSION folded to the right:
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Map divided ... with the new modular division can create different situations play area:
Only BASE: 3-5 players
BASE +1 expansion top 6 players (6th Novgorod)
BASE +1 expansion left: 6 players (6th French)
BASE +2 expansions left: 8 players (Spanish 7th, 8th Berbers)
BASE + EXPANSIONS: 10 players
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Highlights a fold of panels:
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More info in italian:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=100&start=10#p222
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=141&start=60#p4300
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The creation of LOGO

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:52

I began to think of the logo in 2008, but only in 2009 I had the right idea.
I started from this image of Europa Universalis:
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Then I replaced the word "Europe" with "MedioEvo":
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And finally I edged with yellow, the word "Universalis" to stand out better ... added 2 crossed swords (1 Christian and 1 Muslim) in the background that give an idea of what the boardgame is:
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The BOX from 2008 to 2011: space calculation in 2008

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In 2008 I wanted to create the game box, one box that contained all the components.
I had decided to divide the components on 2 levels...

Level down:
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Level up:
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Finished Size:
300x620 mm. internal box
320x640 mm. external cover
145 mm. total height
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The BOX from 2008 to 2011: space calculation in 2010

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:53

In 2009 I decided to split the game into 2 equal parts, tea, and complimentary EXPANSION BASE.
So I decided to create 2 boxes and I was forced to reorganize the space in every single box.

This is a simulation of how to divide the space for each player:
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Here an initial calculation of size: I have taken into account the thickness of the material that I used, the air to leave between a box and the other, and also to facilitate the extraction of the cover:
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And here all calculations to build a double wooden box for both the sets:
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Each set would occupy an internal volume of 546x311x130 mm. divided in 3 levels (lower level to the boxes of the players, the middle level for the components in common and the bases player, top level for the map and tables).

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The BOX from 2008 to 2011: external graphics 2009

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:54

Well, the first attempt in 2008 was fairly simple and obvious, I had little time and little desire to prepare it:
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In 2009 I tried to improve the graphics of the cover:
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As a background image for the lower part of the box I used the same of the cover, but much more faded ... the end result was this:
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The BOX from 2008 to 2011: external graphics 2010

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:56

In 2010 I prepared the graphics for the 2 boxes, base set & Sets expansion.
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As in 2009, I used images of Dore to adorn the sides of the boxes, but this time were larger:
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On the bottom is listed the contents of the boxes (different for each box).
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I am currently still using these boxes, but I'd change them and make them more beautiful.

More info in italian of 2008: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=100&start=10#p266
More info in italian of 2010: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=141&start=20#p2118
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The BOX: the assembly

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 11 dicembre 2015, 0:59

Material necessary? Always the same, this time however I have used a cardboard Sp. 2 mm. very harder and rigid. You have to remember Only you 2 things:
1 - the cover is more great of the box (obvious you will say you), but you keep in mind the thickness of the cardboard that use and that you will have to leave at least 1 mm. of air between the external perimeter of the box and the inside perimeter of the cover.
2 - the press that will cover box and cover will have to keep in mind of the thickness of the cardboard, therefore in my case it will be wider and longer than 2 mm. on every side.

PROCEDURE:
You traces with the pencil the perimeter and the folds of the box...
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With the cutter remove the parts of superfluous cardboard, remember the first passage: light and precise...
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To engrave only the folds of the box for halves the thickness of the cardboard, even to position the blade of the cutter to the first tag, to hold tilts it so that the blade you penetrate only 1 mm. this way the incision will be homogeneous...
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To fold up the 4 sides and to unite them with adhesive "soft"...
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Now the beautiful one comes: to dress again the cover of the box so gotten...
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I have made it stamp as the map, adhesive under and varnished opaque above, I have not made it trim, I will do it me now leaving a white edge of 10 mm. around 4 sides (they need for the lapel and a pinch of aesthetics)
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Now you don't remove the protection on the adhesive side of the press yet, but you start to center this last on the box, throwing and then fixing the position with the adhesive paper here and there...
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You fix a half the press to the box...
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you cut to 45° the 4 edges of the press (you can do later also it if you are not experienced, otherwise you risk that they stick you between them parts of the press or worse still on the cardboard)
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and then he proceeds as explained with the map, first to free half protection on the adhesive side...
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him "it smears" on the box in homogeneous way...
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go away the parts in excess...
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and Energetic revision with the handle of the scissors on the inside lapel (with the closed point, instead, to cross again well the angles)
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To repeat the whole procedure with the other halves the box...
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MADE.
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These are the last version:
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