MedioEvo Universalis II

Genesis and assembling from the first ideas until the creation of the prototype

Coatings for all boxes

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 6 luglio 2016, 22:22

I also retired the first prints to cover the boxes and panels of the players, here below I put on the floor after the first cut... then cut it by hand 1 by 1 cropped with the utmost precision, no cutter, I prefer the scissors :D

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I started preparing the panels of the players ... here I used the same material of boxes: laminate, cut ever by the carpenter.
The porous face of the laminate is not very suitable for adhesive at the rear of the prints, so I had to use bi-adesive on the rear side of laminate :lol:

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Then I joined the 3 parts with tape paper on the opposite side:

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And finally, with much calmness and precision, I coated the outside of the panels player:

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I repeated the same operation on the inside, then outside I scored with a fingernail where join the 3 parts...

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... And then I cut with cutter, but the outer covering ONLY!

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And here is the newest panel player on the new wooden base, just tested the first three in the match on Friday evening June 4 ... ALEEEE OOOOOOOO

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Important news of this new version of player's panel:
- support area much larger
- less angled side panels for a broader vision
- reorganization of tables to be more readable
- elimination of rules about the maximum number linked with type of terrain
- elimination of the rules about capital
- put names of the new cards as CARTOGRAPHY, FARMING, HUNTING, CARDINAL etc...
- Entered the auction for MURDERESS
- rearrange the sequence of play, LAST, 3 phases of the turn player became in contemporary common with all other players in order to speed up significantly the turn of the game overall :!:
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Step 4 little boxes

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 6:47

First of all I have created cardboard templates to center the laminate box on the coating (in this picture is upside down)

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Then I hit the box with the utmost precision...

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... and I set half to coating.

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Reverse everything and take off the coating remained free

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Cut half of paper protecting the adhesive ...

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... and so I can attack the freedom to the bottom half of the box.

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Reverse again and free half of the coating fixed.

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I take away half of paper protecting the adhesive and finally fix all on the bottom of the box.
Now please make attention because it attacks all :P

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Make 2 angled cuts on the short side of the covering projection

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Lift the central flap and attack on the box.

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Make a couple of cuts on the sides of this strip so as not to interfere or have anything that sticks out ...

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... and then spreads on the box

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And so on for all 4 sides ... obviously must be cut what protrudes from the long sides ...

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... and fold the edges stickers; make the prettiest box and much more resistant, the coating is also much less trash.

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MADE!

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Repeat all things to all boxes and their covers ... perform the same procedure for the 2 big box.
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Result of work made in May-June

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 6:53

Presentation at PISA PLAY 2010, 12-13 June 2010

New box and panel of player:

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Photos of 19 March, 3 months ago, when I was assuming:

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New 2 boxes, BASE SET (5 players) and expansion (up to 10 players):

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CONTAINED OF THE SET BASE FOR 3-5 PLAYERS (protoype)

N. 1 Box - Dimensions: 500x300x120 mm
N. 8 Pillboxes - Dimensions: 100x300x40 mm

N. 1 board representative Europe, North Africa and Middle Or. - Dimensions: 1200x850 mm
N. 1 color Rule
N. 5 Charts commerce and technology (double face)
N. 5 Panels player (representatives 3 charts with a summary of the rules more used)
N. 5 Sheets divided in 2 charts to respectively mark the commerce and the diplomacy

N. 6 Groups than armed with different color: 5 colors for the players with 50 unities every more 1 player "automatic" with 200 unities. Every color has its pillbox to contain them.

N. 5 Swords to determine the random-turns
N. 79 little castles divided in 4 different colors
N. 20 Castles
N. 20 Buildings
N. 20 Fortitudes
N. 10 Cathedrals
N. 3 Towers with Standard

N. 10 Catapults
N. 5 Bombards
N. 15 Banners managed and 15 General divided in 5 colors player
N. 5 Barbaric Commanders and N. 3 General Barbarians
N. 1 Assassin (optional)
N. 45 red Tokens in plastics (for the levels of experience of the Banners)

N. 6 Groups of coins (in cuts from 1, 5, 10, 50, 100, 500)
N. 8 Groups of 30 commodities of different color
N. 15 Ships commerce
N. 15 caravans of different color
N. 15 war ships of different dimensions
N. 15 horses of different color

N. 5 Groups of inhabited Centers divided for color and different dimensions
N. 15 commerce buildings (5 farm, 5 market, 5 mine)
N. 5 reserves of wheat

N. 5 Groups of 6 dice (D4, D6, D8, D10, D12) of different color
N. 2 Dice D6 events
N. 1 Die D4 and N. 1 D6

N. 6 Bunches of Cards divided in:
N. 66 Cards Empire
N. 170 Cards Civilization (but you could surely be replaced by a photocopy-sheet representative all the 34 technologies where the player marks as soon as those that he possesses)
N. 30 Cards Events
N. 15 Cards Calamity
N. 10 Cards Treasure
N. 10 Cards Objective
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DELUXE wooden box

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 6:54

Obviously my idea for this revision of the game also included the DELUXE box ... a few posts back you could read that Carpenter built the box with Plexiglas Panel for objects in the top half ... all stopped because of hardware :?

Looked everywhere ... then I was finished by a local blacksmith who works again as once ... I commissioned the work, but the thing was very long, so for PISAGIOCA 2010 it wasn't absolutely ready.

The other day I go him to monitor the progress of works ... fortunatly so I could choose and change a few things.

Add here a photo made in his workshop of drafts that had prepared, sorry the poor sharpness, but probably there was little light and also a lot of dust in the air:

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His idea was to put on 8 corners something worked with medieval decorations and leave the hinges and deadbolt straight ... I asked if it was possible to add medieval decorations on hinges and deadbolt. He told me that there were no problems, so we decided to finish the job in this way ;)

We will see in dozen days what jumps out.
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THE COINS

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 6:55

I'm thinking also of substituting cardboard coins...

premise: I would have liked to use the monetary system of medieval time, but would not be easy for players, summarizing: florin was divided in 20 gold "soldi" and 240 gold "denari", but progressively revalued compared to silver coins. Therefore, initially florin gold was equivalent to 20 silver money, but at the end of the Republic it was 150 (7,5 times).
Obviously the speech would be wider.

Florin
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Silver florin or "popolino"
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Here is an example of what I'm currently using:
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However, I'd make them new, using only multiple of florin as I am doing now, but using a different material instead of the cardboard ... should be able to create coins of various sizes (with a different diameter) and possibly colored or colorable.

The metal I think really hard, I was thinking to scraps of sheet metal cutting laser, but then the problem would be to give the image ... or a carved or with lasers.

I asked for help and advice in various forums, here are the answers for now:

- have you tried to type plastic tiddlywinks?

- and try to feel who produces tokens or coins for car washes or lunaparks?

- You may use chips for poker, very simple and not too large.

- Depends on the cost that you want to support and compromise with the result.
wooden disk hot engraved
create a prototype to create fimo coins
create a prototype to create resin coins

- Copper, I fear it may be too malleable, meaning that it works well, but then fold.
You might see the washers from hardware
Otherwise you could ask someone who makes metal sculptures

- Maybe the lead as one of the miniatures? Create some mold and then funds inside ...

- The plastic excluded? There are coins very chips

- http://www.cicrespi.com/

- http://www.chimimetal.com

- http://www.lasertechsrl.eu

and so on...

I tried to ask for a quote to washers-italia for metal coins ... they have a variety of material also visually to differentiate the value of coins ... the problem is that for each different molds they want around 250 euros ...

... so having 7 different types of coins (1-5-10-50-100-500-1000) plus a head, equal for all ... would be 8 different molds. 250x8 = 2000 euro :blink:

Examples of coins:
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It is not feasible ... out of budget ... UFF!!!

I still think a little ...
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DELUXE BOX

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 7:20

Short FINALLY completing the "sbav sbav" DELUXE box for the convention!

I retired from blacksmith at Saturday morning iron hardware made by hand, here are some pieces:
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I would say very good result, thinking also of the fact that I paid ONLY 40 euros instead of the 180 budgeted :lol:

Right now I'll take everything to Carpenter and try to find an optimal solution for the weight contained in the upper half.
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CARDS: deck Empire almost finished

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 7:21

Workings of the cards with Omar ... now we will finish with the first deck:

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I'd say good job for now :D
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Assembling IMPERIAL cards

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 7 luglio 2016, 12:55

I printed with laser printer on A4 ... adhesive paper specifically for Laser.

Then I bought a sticky mat transparent film roll and I cut into rectangles slightly larger than A4 to have a safety margin and be sure to cover the cards.

With each film I bent backwards a short side of the rear paper for a couple of cm. and then I have positioned the card sheet (below) aligned with the film (above) as in the third figure.

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At this point, slowly, sfilavo posteriorly with one hand the protection film to the paper while with the other hand smeared evenly (without creating air bubbles or ripples) the film on the cards.

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Then I cut out so fast and the rough edges of excess film and I passed all the sheets in the plasticizer in minimum temperature ...

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... The first test did not go well, then I solved the problems, but I was forced to cut each card, wipe with the back of the scissors film to make it adhere better to the paper and pass them AFTER the plasticizer (see first photo below ).

I did not have available the cutter like 11 years ago :lol: :lol: :lol: so I was forced to cut everything by hand with scissors ... and here comes the girlfriend enslaved. :P

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Next step: remove the paper protecting the adhesive behind (see above) ...

... paper folding on itself by matching PERFECTLY the top and keeping the lateral alignment.
Then the work was almost finished: a pair of scissors to remove the white border remained on the lower side and 4 shots with the "blunt corners" to round the four corners of the paper.

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Made.
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Re: MedioEvo Universalis II

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 8 dicembre 2016, 10:53

Here below tests about new money for this prototype:

1° test
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2° test
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... and even coins are finished ... Despite some hitches, now I have coins PERFECTLY EQUAL to Rhodry's draw:

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Fort Knox :lol:
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Photos of the molds that were used to create the coins: SPECTACLE !!!
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Last details for LUDICA 2011

Messaggio da leggereda Veldriss il 8 dicembre 2016, 10:57

Brochure front and rear:

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Tecnology Table (front):

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Trade Table (rear):

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